13/03/11 - NovaTV - Interview with MEP Slavi Binev on current topics, New television, On four eyes
Interview with MEP Slavi Binev on current topics
New television, On four eyes
Host: Hello, the MEP from Ataka Slavi Binev is here. Welcome Mr. Binev.
Slavi Binev: Welcome.
Host: I will start straight away with the hottest issue because I do not know whether we realize how important this is for us. But according to you, do you think the EU should be involved in what is happening in Libya?
Slavi Binev: Whole Europe is split on this issue, and indeed how far the intervention should go. If you ask all Bulgarians, all will immediately say to go there and arrest or at least torture Gaddafi. But the truth is that until now, the decision taken by the EU is not in any way to participate in military action against Libya. To intervene only on a humanitarian level, humanitarian aid and only if there is approval by the UN, then there may be some armed intervention, but we must have the Arab League approving as well, otherwise ...
Host: And the Security Council, possibly, it is just not ...
Slavi Binev: No, according to me they want the approval of the Arab League, for one reason only, not to sound like a crusade. Christians against Muslims you will think, this is a very odd topic, a taboo in all international relations. Although this concerns the removal of a dictator who is present for so many years and by whom we are the ones worst affected.
Host: That is right, but I think, as it is in this case, that we always land on some military wing, as I have felt in politics until now. But for me , Prime Minister Borisov took a very reasonable position, being strongly against any military intervention and I think that's a pretty right position because ...
Slavi Binev: For me his position also sounds correct. I have often criticized the Prime Minister, but particularly on this issue.
Host: We are talking specifically about this issue.
Slavi Binev: I totally agree with him, because the opposition also participated in the suffering of our doctors and nurses and we cannot divide them into good and bad torturers. It is clear that all depends on Gaddafi and depended on Gaddafi. But the truth is that it is their local problem. They are a sovereign country and have to solve the problem between themselves.
Host: Yes, also there is a high risk to have what happened in Iraq. I have friends Iraqis who are refugees from Sedan, who loathed him for years and I listened to their complains and they are now very, very against the military intervention that took place there, because they keep in touch with their beloved ones and say that currently the situation there is terrible!
Slavi Binev: Well, the President of the EU, Herman Van Rompuy united the general opinion and said that he was absolutely opposed to a military intervention by the EU and that this is the decision, which was taken because you know that England and France had quite a different position on that issue, especially England. Like England, David /.../ particularly pressed to make restrictions especially on the oil exports from Iraq. Which is extremely important ...
Host: And Sarkozy is not more moderate in my opinion, not to say that he was the first to recognize the legitimacy of the opposition and to decide to talk with it?
Slavi Binev: Sarkozy has often had some very interesting actions, many controversial ones.
Host: Yes, he is an extremely interesting politician, he is eccentric!
Slavi Binev: He is even looking for them, he is looking for them ... eccentric, right, this is the word. And it is like he is looking for them, but I think this does not serve him well, it does no good for the simple reason that now there will be elections, and the sociology indicates that he will loose against Jean-Marie Le Pen.
Host: But he will loose against the daughter of Le Pen! The nationalist Le Pen.
Slavi Binev: The daughter of Le Pen, who is our colleague and who is extremely intelligent woman with an extremely serious charisma. And maybe she will return for his father, because in the end ... with the words of Le Pen, they are just made on behalf of a party that is more accepted!
Host: Well, I ...
Slavi Binev: This she said /.../ as well in relation towards the party?!
Slavi Binev: Because it seems like the entire EU, sometimes join forces against people who are patriotic or national ... let's call them by another name - the nationalist world. For no other reason because the tremendous development of Europe practically gave rise to other forces, nationalist tensions that are extremely fashionable at the moment and which rob largely the usual parties. I mean the socialist and democratic parties, which made meaningless the words such as democracy and freedom. An example, the Democrats said that "We are all for democracy and we will kill anyone who is against it, in a particularly cruel manner." Practically, what is actually against the idea of democracy, we have to accept all people, who in one way or another see differently and in another way how the state is assembled.
Host: Well that is why I wanted to ask you. How it is to be an MP from Ataka in the EP?
Slavi Binev: Well there are many advantages, first there is no such ...
Host: There are advantages, you say?
Slavi Binev: There are but I will them later, but there is no such thing as "MP from Ataka", we are independent MEP and elected by "Ataka"...
Host: You understood me very well, what I ask you Mr. Binev?
Slavi Binev: Yes, I did understand. You meant as part of say that patriotic world right which is divided into several...
Host: You call it patriotic, but many call it nationalistic?
Slavi Binev: It is a question of words, who will use which.
Host: Yes, we are specifying for our viewers.
Slavi Binev: I think it is more modern, better sits at the moment because the other one somehow carries a peculiar sense. One particular sense, but the truth is why we are such, why this has pros? First of all, because we do not have to keep any party discipline, sometimes one has to ignore the idea for which he was sent there as a defender of his country. We are quite free to do and always to safeguard the one thing for which we were chosen, i.e. to defend the position of our country. For us it is much easier and much lighter.
Host: Okay, but do they not look at the two great families of the Socialists and the Right ...
Slavi Binev: Yes, yes it is normal, there is jealousy, there is jealousy of course?!
Host: But what jealousy, do they not look at it with no acceptance of such extreme views?
Slavi Binev: No, no, these are absolutely interpretations, their goal is only one, to discredit these parties because they consider it their territory! Generally they consider politics as their territory. They have often said "Why did you become good, you were so bad". In this sense that being bad is to suffer. Somehow that territory of the good is reserved for us. You should be bad! We need you. By the way I noticed the English because they were mentioned in the beginning. There is no such attitude towards each other, what I mean, for example Nigel Farige, who is one of the most extravagant MEPs, I have seen often talking and agreeing with his counterparts from other countries, because such the relationship should be. The other parties should not in always say "From Ataka they are bad" or something else, because we are in a way very important, as a group, the Bulgarian group should be together.
Host: Why you are important?
Slavi Binev: Because there are things, which you can say, the English sometimes, in those parties which are more unacceptable, nationalistic or patriotic, whatever you call them, sometimes do the ugly job and say things boldly. They say the things more boldly, more aggressively. Which afterwards will be taken as arms from the EPP, very often. Whatever we speak now, the way EPP corresponds with its electorate at the moment is the way you were doing so with unacceptable words of nationalistic formulations some time ago. I'm talking about the 60s, 70s.
Host: Okay, but say really isn't there ...
Slavi Binev: Sarkozy became what he is with the way Le Pen talked 15 years ago?!
Host: This is undisputed, it is clear that this was part of his ideology, tempered and decorated!
Slavi Binev: No, rather not, the contrary ...
Slavi Binev: He is aggressive, decorated exactly! This is the correct word.
Host: To me his campaign was very interesting and that is why I have direct impressions! Anyway, the question is are you going to deny, but many suspect that the EPP look with suspicion that Ataka is the main partner, the main supporter of the Office of GERB, which are part of the EPP?
Slavi Binev: No, all disaprovals /.../ from largely from the Socialist Party. Mostly from PES, socialists and democrats who are now, they are forced now, are not PES,but socialists and democrats. From there all the notes to the EPP and the institutions are coming, they are /.../ from our colleagues.
Host: From where?
Slavi Binev: They are probably /.../ from our colleagues and I do not argue about it. Because they must listen to their political leaders and probably they are quite uncomfortable because they are very aware of the need of us. At least once! And they have nothing to do, they just have to listen to their leaders.
Host: The point is did GERB compromise themeselves due to your support?
Slavi Binev: Well no, not ...
Host: Tell me now, it is very complicated situation for me. You are part of Ataka ...
Slavi Binev: I think if someone is compromised, he can be jeopardized by ... any records or any memory sticks or anything that should be explained to the people. But we are hardly the ones who can compromise them...
Host: Okay, But ...
Slavi Binev: On the contrary, there are, whatever we talk here, a revival of all patriotic and nationalist movements in the Netherlands and Brussels, and Belgium and the Czech Republic and Poland and Hungary. And largely they are courting the union and the many of the rightist parties.
Host: That is, you are right, the daughter of Le Pen is currently leading in all opinion polls in France ...
Slavi Binev: Of course, no, no in Italy you remember that actually the nationalists split from Berlusconi, not he from them. I.e. they saw that they are now on the rise and that he currently burdens them.
Host: Well, the question is whether the support given by Ataka for the Cabinet of GERB, now is not strongly vulnerable? Tell me honestly!
Slavi Binev: Well ...
Host: I know you're an MEP, you're not in the Bulgarian Parliament, but I hope you have direct view and opinion about what your party plans ...
Slavi Binev: ... I am following the things I do not know if it is vulnerable because the man who actually makes the decisions for us, nevertheless is Volen Siderov.
Host: So how, alone?
Slavi Binev: No, the point is not whether he takes them alone, but the matter is that he leads these discussions and this is completely normal. But for me, I think they are a pure principle. In support. Here someone somehow will mention any words, unquestioned support and any other things.
Host: Well it was one Mr. Binev?
Slavi Binev: No, so according to me it was purely principled and here is just talking ... had to be respected ... actually we are united around certain events that had to be done by the state. This is the fight with...
Host: With ...
Slavi Binev: Well, of course, with the criminals in defense of the Bulgarian business. The fight against monopolies, the fight against corruption. I can single out many other things, but it was not little. Unfortunately, it seems like they are now more concerned to safe their image, but they may lose their asses! But sometimes they are more engaged with themselve at that moment than with what actually brought us together.
Host: What separates you now?
Slavi Binev: The implementation of these principles that actually brought us together. So it had to be ... after all, all major reforms require broad coalitions. They want a great approval.
Host: It is so?!
Slavi Binev: There should be definitely a required strategy, a national strategy that should be absolutely incontestable within the whole range of political parties. Nobody can say the white to be black! I.e. things that are placed should not divide us between white and black, and on the opposition and the ruling, they had to be clear and compelling to the problems. We all know we should be overcome the criminality. Isn't it so?!
Host: So it is, we did start!
Slavi Binev: We did start, but in the end, we started struggling, as our ambitions go ahead of our abilities.
Host: Is it a question of ambition and opportunity everything?
Slavi Binev: Well according to me yes, because it had, what went from the beginning. There is something else and it should be known very clearly. In fact, the crisis is burdening another crisis, which we had. The crisis in parting with Todor Zhivkov, the crisis to understand what is good and what is bad! And it should be clear that when people are poor, this is breeding ground for criminality. The most important thing, that once and for all, all politicians should explain this. Their job is not to keep very good political speeches but to deal with and make people live better. To feel better! They should not ever put emblems of money, labels on their parties, like ... I did this, but I did such and such things. This does not mean that everyone who enters has to do his best. I.e. this must be managers with respect to the means, to the people and who care about the people!
Host: Well, can you now summarize the rulling of Borisov from your perspective?
Slavi Binev: Well it is difficult to summarize because the movement ...
Host: Why it is difficult?
Slavi Binev: The movement forward, backward, to the side on the left, on the right, it is not constant. So for me this is the most important thing. As people sometimes not only change the rules of the game, but they change the entire game. And these turns of 180 degrees, often happen!
Host: Say for which turns you speak?
Slavi Binev: For me ... Many times for example, the Prime Minister has rebutted himself.
Principal: For example?
Slavi Binev: So for one, one manager, he can make mistakes, but he cannot accept responsibility. Many times it happened of him to dismiss one in the morning and to return the one after lunch. If today we say something, tomorrow after the talks with the European institutions, we say the opposite. I.e. It makes us ...
Host: Like what, say what you ... for dismissal I could have guessed, however, another, say something else...
Slavi Binev: No, this practice is so great that even very often you've seen that most importantly for us is to join Schengen, then it appears that is not Schengen, but to get out of the crisis. I.e. no clarity of priorities, this is an extremely important thing for me, especially. Makes people somehow to understand the strategy better and it should be very clearly explained what's next. And to have a clear strategy for what we actually fight, what we want to happen!
Host: Okay, now we are getting out from the economic crisis according to you, according to statistics we are raising from the bottom?
Slavi Binev: On the contrary, statistics show the opposite. When unemployment rises, GDP is reduced and when the purchasing power of funds received by one ...
Host: You, Djankov and Traykov read different statistics?
Slavi Binev: Well ...
Host: So come tand ell me your statistics anyway I've invited you?!
Slavi Binev: So the statistics that I know in the moment isthat Gthe DP falls, unemployment rises and the purchasing power of money is generally reduced, at least due to the lifting oil prices, grains, bread, etc. Something that is not the absorption of funds. There, by the way ...
Host: How not used, how many times our ministers say that they have increased the absorption of EU funds, compared to before?
Slavi Binev: So it is... there are so many errors in the negotiations for funds as a whole ...
Slavi Binev: Because...
Host: Say, it's interesting, you are in the EP and you should know more?
Slavi Binev: Well ok, I'll give you an example, which is actually here right here, because there is great not synchronization of the problem. The funds were not negotiated by sector, particularly in the agriculture. But they are negotiated per hectare! This immediately favours the eligible people from Dobrudja, while the people from Plovdiv suffer, because they deal with tomatoes, cucumbers, etc. There cannot be per hectare for them, there must be ...
Host: Who was negotiating this?
Slavi Binev: Well this were ...
Host: The current government, or the one before? No, let's talk ...
Slavi Binev: This is a process by the way, you cannot say, it's up to here, everyone is guilty ... there were times when this could have been done in motion, right. There are moments of course ...
Host: Yeah, it could have been changed by the Office of Borisov, right?!
Slavi Binev: Could have been, but in the end it did not happen. And the most idiotic in the whole story, in fact precisely those who take on hectares, they actually take the most money from the funds, mainly the grain bosses. So what happens now, instead of reducing the price of bread, it rose for just six months with 40 cents!
Host: Yeah, but there will be repressions on the price increases, didn't you hear how the Prime Minister wants to deal with this, with repressions?
Slavi Binev: No, so that with the repressions /.../ these are repression with him. So it is not going to be, where they should not be spontaneous, they should be a principle strategy! It should be known that the fight against speculation must be kept at proper laws and not corrupted administration. These are the two moments, on which this war could be led. And in this case...
Host: But the repression against speculators?
Slavi Binev: This could not be a fight against speculators that we start tomorrow. This is a daily process, it must be fought at all levels and continuously. And I say how it should be led - with laws and regular and honest administration?!
Host: Do we have them, do we have good laws and a honest uncorrupt administration?
Slavi Binev: Well I think both things are insufficient.
Host: There are different explanations ...
Slavi Binev: I will express myse lf more elegant ...
Host: Come on, go not so gracefully, why they do not have enough?
Slavi Binev: Well, first the laws of one country are many, they are not associated with one or other laws. So I have many disagreements,the least, the business now suffers severely. That's it..
Host: It suffers?
Slavi Binev: Oh, sure!
Host: From what is suffering?
Slavi Binev: It suffers from many things. First, that it must be cleaned but the cleaning should be not only on the highways but on the streets. There are, inter alia, roads between financial paths that are much more important. So there are uncleaned debts, the internal debt obligations is somewhere around a billion. It was recently said to be between 2 and 4 billion, now we do not know how much is it, because there are no statistics for it. There are many, many debts that simply cannot be declared. Here was precisely the power, the people who had to take money from the state or the municipalities, to make... obligations to pay the state accordingly. Such as fees, taxes, etc. This cannot happen now. We need to light these roads and to make this happen as quickly as possible. Because in fact, the rotating speed of money is extremely important. Speed! That is what we can compensate for the lack of funds.
Host: Okay, I will ask you some specific questions to see your personal position, the position of "Ataka" maybe. Are you for the construction of Belene NPP?
Slavi Binev: I think NPP Belene should be definitely build. Of course, the price is very important as well, but I think it is absolutely necessary.
Host: Why should it be mandatory?
Slavi Binev: Well, nuclear energy is frankly, perhaps the safest and the cheapest ...
Host: This we say today, when in Japan there are talks about leaking radiation over a thousand times and I do not know, the tolerance level and people are in panic?
Slavi Binev: So Japan is an earthquake zone. Japan, it certainly has many other advantages for general storage, etc. It cannot be given as the exact best example. But whatever we talk, atomic energy was something that gave us, we had the opportunity to export electricity from Bulgaria, some time ago.
Host: Well, we still export it, export, export, we continue to export?!
Slavi Binev: For where do we export to Turkey ...
Host: To where they want it ... if nobody wants, how to export?
Slavi Binev: Yes. On the contrary, wants there ... this is very complex system to talk about.
Host: The next thing. Yes because it's not exactly your ...
Slavi Binev: Yes, we went in technology, it is so.
Host: Yes, it is not exactly your portfolio. I want you to give me an estimate for the work of Tsvetanov, from your perspective?
Slavi Binev: Well at first I was hopeful because he solved some problems with the kidnappings. But the truth is as it seems, yet again, it seems that the ambitions exceeded the capacity. We are dealing with more explanations on a personal level, than with the work itself. And the other thing which seems like, the monitoring we receive, shows me that we continue to be dissatisfied with the judicial system, which largely requires things to be done. We do not have convicted criminals.
Host: Unfortunately not!
Slavi Binev: Huge problem. So here now there should have been. ..
Host: There must be some minor, but in a way to please the public opinion ...
Slavi Binev: So it started very seriously and see that in the end all ...
Host: In your opinion it is not happening because they cannot. ..
Slavi Binev: We do not have the legislative initiative, we do not have...
Host: ... and because it is not sincere or because what? So how can we not have, Special Court is made, changes in NPC, now they will seize our property in the easiest way?
Slavi Binev: Yes, the facts speak otherwise, we do not have convicted criminals. Rather, it is considered as it seems ...
Host: it will ...
Slavi Binev: It is believed that these things will be rather used as a repressive apparatus than anything else!
Host: And how do you think?
Slavi Binev: Because ... well I'm worried for many reasons, because we see the desire to control society, if things continue, you see they will become victims of themselves. On his own distrust, on his own investigation and the restriction of freedoms. This is a thing unacceptable for me. Right ...
Host: You mean the memory sticks, the distribution of converstations from the sticks?
Slavi Binev: Well, yes. Whatever we speak, I think in no case should be allowed to limit the freedom of people! One of the fathers of America said that "Anyone who is willing to release some of his freedoms for the sake of security, sooner or later he will loose both". There are ways not to do this in such ...
Host: I realized that I wanted to ask you, are there any ways?
Slavi Binev: There is a difference between cops-like and control. There is a huge difference.
Host: Now what is it?
Slavi Binev: So we kept ... Well I think there is a replay of the story with the cops. Such is the psychology according me.
Host: What would you advice Borisov, to change Tsvetanov or not?
Slavi Binev: Oh, no, no, God forgive me to give advice to ...
Host: Why, you're in a party that supports him now?
Slavi Binev: I will refrain for now, first of all for whom? Right. I think the problem sometimes when there is unsolvable problem, you should also look whether the problem is not in you. Because ultimately we all very well know that with Boyko, with Boyko there are no ministers, in the best case there are vice ministers. Right ... he is too, too, by force or his serious presence to admit that someone ...
Host: To have ministers?
Slavi Binev: To feel like a minister! So I personally think that sometimes one has to look for the problems whether they are not in him.
Host: And when you look, what do you see?
Slavi Binev: Well, I still think we should be more demanding of the people we choose and to which we delegate the opportunity to rule, we should be demanding?
Host: You recently said that there is a return to the 90s. What did you mean? Criminal situation, right?
Slavi Binev: Well yes, when there are again people being kidnapped...
Host: Who was kidnapped?
Slavi Binev: Including the grandson of a minister.
Host: Oh, this was a car theft. Unfortunately this is not a kidnapping or is it in your opinion? I have heard of other cases that a car is stolen together with a child inside?
Slavi Binev: F. Well, it's unacceptable to me. Already. ..
Host: Nowhere in the world cars are not being stolen, right?
Slavi Binev: So in the time we live in it is unacceptable to me. So now, recently there were again murders, there were shots, bombs. On your colleagues as well. So it is unacceptable to me, whatever excuses there are for this question. It always like this, he himself put it, this one I killed, I do not know what else etc. So for me this is unacceptable and we must all unite around that we should be more demanding, not to allow to be lied twice! I think so.
Host: Since you mentioned about ...
Slavi Binev: That criminality it seems becomes /.../. Ultimately the criminality is not a privilege only, so to be involved only police or customs officers, even politicians, etc. It is part of society, there are as well journalists and artists. Right i.e. this is a disease of society. And it's not selective, it is like a flu going around. There are people who actually put themselves in the service of others who do not have the qualities to cope with the tasks that face them. Because for me the most important fact is not to apologize for the problems, but to die with pride that we have solved them in the smartest way.
Host: Actually is there a real will to fight crime, according to you, because for me this is important? Real or not real, from your point of view of course!
Slavi Binev: Well, I cannot say is ... to me when there is a crisis ...
Host: How it looks to you?
Slavi Binev: The crisis itself is the breeding ground for criminality. Whenever there is a crisis, then people say yes!
Host: Yes, the crime increased.
Slavi Binev: The bread and hunger is stronger than the electricity. I.e. people sometimes become more diverse and we need to have this in mind. Clean as social and political decisions.
Host: You know Aleksey Petrov?
Slavi Binev: We have seen each other many years ago. For sure we are not friends!
Host: What do you think about him?
Slavi Binev: Well, I have not thought much about him!
Slavi Binev: Well, I had many other things to devote my time to. But ...
Host: Well you thought about the fight which is against him?
Slavi Binev: Well, I must tell you that I did not realize why he was caught, why all this happened! I could not believe and I could not get the proof for myself that all this that collapsed on his head, he deserved. I'm not sure in this, at least for myself.
Host: So for you he is more positive ...
Slavi Binev: No, I cannot say that, I just expected when doing such activities, they to be topped with much more evidence or something of this sort. So I think I cannot tell you. I must tell you that this battle remained unclear for me. All might suspect that I am very well aware of how and what is the conspiracy ...
Host: I'll tell you why I suspect! I heard recently Tatyana Doncheva saying that you have something in common and you're like the three characters, and so I decided to tell you something ...
Slavi Binev: No no, so for Tatyana all men look alike. So maybe this is what grouped us together. But I cannot tell you the principle she puts us together. There is definitely a rivalry among us, we cannot be together. Right, how to be together?
Host: What separates you?
Slavi Binev: Well generaly how one views life, in my opinion, many things divide us. Many things! I ...
Host: past or present?
Slavi Binev: I think what separates more is the present. The attitude towards life.
Host: Do you know why I asked you about Petrov! Because they speak for him as the "Octopus". And I came across an article in Rocknews which said "Boyko is hitting Slavi Binev with Octopus 2". Have you read this article?
Slavi Binev: I've read it, I've read many such things. I incidentally had ...
Host: Therefore I decided to begin with Octopus 1 to see ...
Slavi Binev: At one time there was one, someone, somewhere had invented something. Or maybe someone has done something to us to put extra oil on the fire. But there was such a moment.
Host: Because he knows that you do not like each other or at least you do not like Borisov? This is an old ...
Slavi Binev: So, in no case our relationship is personal, just based on principles. Completely normal, can not be liked by everyone.
Slavi Binev: And that's it ..
Host: And you think someone poures oil on the fire?
Slavi Binev: Maybe there was ... I just did not ask questions, but there was definitely a campaign on this issue. For example four or five newspapers and one transmission went out and reheated some old soup, which put me on a conscious level that something might happen. I of course immediately took measures on this issue...
Host: What measures?
Slavi Binev: At least I informed some of the organizations in the EU. ..
Host: Are you serious?
Slavi Binev: Of course. There is no ...
Host: What, you tell some European institutions, that according to some articles, someone here prepares something...
Slavi Binev: I do not want to go into details because these are very delicate details. But the fact is that very quickly after that, things somehow subsided.
Host: What subsided? The media noise or something else you know?
Slavi Binev: Well I could not unknot this case to the end, and in fact there i did not desire to do so.
Host: And did you speak with Borisov?
Slavi Binev: I have not spoken to, for about a week the things grew so much that I'm suspicious person and quickly react to such things?!
Host: You think you have put this down?
Slavi Binev: Oh, no, no, I do not know if I have suppress. I ...
Host: And are you afraid of something Mr. Binev?
Slavi Binev: Somehow I hid my fears in the back pocket, I do not know. Everyone is afraid. Not to be afraid, probably only the fools are not afraid. But according to me, I manage to control my fears, definitely.
Host: Then why did you warn the European institutions?
Slavi Binev: Just because we must at least inform about what might happen to us!
Host: What do you think can happen to you?
Slavi Binev: I do notknow I still ...
Host: In your fantasies, what may be ahead?
Slavi Binev: Anything can, someone just wants to clears his way etc. Something that is extremely ...
Host: To where, who you block?
Slavi Binev: Well, to tell you now there are many roads that are uncleaned, not reconstructed, etc. So maybe someone is going on his way and believes that I cross his.
Host: Do you cross someone's path?
Slavi Binev: Well, I've always tried to give on anything that happens my own vision, which is not small. Because as it seems... I have never accepted the mad joy of the people in one thing or another, as well as their anger towards this afterwards. Because the great love always turns into to great hatred! When a person already has the tranquility to ...
Host: Apparently you visualise the love for Borisov?
Slavi Binev: Well, there is no way, sooner or later it will be exhausted!
Host: You say that Boyko is not the only or decent ... I mean to Bulgaria?
Slavi Binev: Well yes... At one moment it seems, we must have the right to choose between Boyko 1, Boyko 2, Boyko 3, Boyko 8 etc. So for me this is incorrect, only in totalitarian states there is no choice. In all either the choice is discredited or killed, or so forth. So I believe that in Bulgaria there are decent people! And do not believe that I make suggestions for myself, I do not have any other ambitions beyond being MEP! Because there I feel exclusively, I feel there like in own waters, for the simple reason that I am able to quickly break the ice in a relationship. And this is of great importance in the European institutions.
Host: You say there is no alternative, but I watch regularly all opinion polls, including the last that came out today on "Media". Even though the credibility to GERB falls, they remain the first political force?
Slavi Binev: Well, there is a need to do something...
Host: What is the alternative you talk about...
Slavi Binev: I think this is not appropriate for GERB itself. For each player, because here, the three people you mentioned, we were former athletes who very well know that without opponents you can not grow in your career! You just have to have an opponent and not to kill him because many times it happened to me with such complexed people that they want to get rid of you and not to grow together in life. It is not the opponent that you hate and want to destroy at any cost, even at the cost of your life, but an opponents with whom together to...
Slavi Binev: But with an opponents with whom together to move forward and to grow in what you do. To fight. And the quality opponent here is extremely important.
Host: Final question! Who will win more votes in the presidential elections, Meglena Kuneva, Volen Siderov or Petrov? I do not ask for others, because these are the known!
Slavi Binev: So here the list is not structured properly! Volen is not placed in the right group, Volen can be introduced into the group of Boyko Borisov and Sergey Stanishev.
Host: Stanishev will be the candidate of the Socialist Party, according to you.
Slavi Binev: No, I do not have any idea. Incidentally, for no other reason but because only Volen ...
Host: I mentioned Borisov because I followed one of his last interviews ...
Slavi Binev: Only Volen adopted a battle of blows below the belt, and became sure first. Because among other things, we all know that already then various conspiratorial actions to hit below the belt start in order to discredit the candidate. Therefore they no longer announce their candidates. At the same time they do not want it to be too late so to be sufficiently recognizable.
Host: However, according to you, who will be the winner then, Let's ask the question more general?
Slavi Binev: But I told you already. They have no correspondence ...
Host: No, in general?
Slavi Binev: I hope Volen for the simple reason that all others could not show what they have done so far. At least when he wins there is a chance to happen something good. Others have shown that it is not possible.
Host: Many thanks for this conversation, Mr. Binev.
Slavi Binev: And I thank you.
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